Considering Advantage Counterplans
- Taiwan weapons
- Lots of ideas from the aff file
Kaesong Industrial Complex
- Six party talks key to get SK and NK talking and negotiating
- Industrial complex key to SK economy
- Econ collapse bad
-- Internal link is through six party talks? Since the ind complex is the place where they cooperate, SK companies would be in NK in the city of Kaesong - money and infrastructure from SK while workers are NK. Joint industrial venture to help both countries. Critical part of the talks.
Need better link internal link to the economy?
Advantages:
Kaesong, China Relations, Six Party Talks (nuclearization)
Iraq Colonialism Aff - Laura
Ramakrishnan-Turner
- Colonialism advantage - bases are cause there's a civil war, but really we're there because we want to be violent and cause chaos and mass death
- D-rule to reject this. The evidence is kind of bad. Many analytics.
- Threat discourse causes war with Islam.
- Worldwide civil war
- Iraq is key
Best piece of evidence says that our bases represent colonialism - best way to engage is yes, we did cause these things, but withdrawing doesn't solve those things.
One of the counterplans is to pull out of Okinawa - internal NB of patriarchy, solves better for case. (Perm solves this).
External net benefit of PMCs (neolib impact).
Iraqi politics DA.
Engage on framework.
Redeployment DA
Heg advantage backwards
Softpower advantage backwards
NATO advantage backwards
"Article 140" - conditions CP for Iraq - claims to the Northern provinces?
- Perm remove combat forces no matter what - condition remaining on passing 140.
- Perm withdraw and then request that they do it.
Stop the Surge - Zulian!
Harkins-Olney
- Pakistan advantage - says that Pakistan is cooperating with the US now in Afghanistan
- Surge kills Pakistani capability to support the US
- Pakistan key to defeat the Al Qaeda
- Nuclear war
- South Asian nuclear war
No ev that surge exacerbates Pakistan instability
Only way to achieve long-term goals in Pakistan
- Jirga advantage - traditional tribal council made to resolve issues inter-tribally
- Advantage says that Karzai did a Jirga to reconcile with the Taliban
- That's fragile - surge blocks the Taliban
- Jirga key to reconciliation and security
- Spills over to big war
Jirga - lots of disadvantages to it
"one-sided elitist corrupt and ineffective"
headed by tribal leaders - traditional means
bribery
Surge is working
India Counterplan???
Tonight - counterplans and DAs
Topicality - reduce means to decrease
- any evidence of future increase is grounds for a plan
- defend a withdrawal not that increasing is bad
- more literature on things there now
- read an aff that got rid of US reserves
Iraq Courts Aff - Michelle
Harkins-Olney
Advantages:
International Law
- If the US followed ILaw we would in the future and others would do so as well.
- Evidence is about how the US should impose its J system on others in the world
Preventative War
- Iraq sets a precedent for invading Syria or NK (but we didn't do that - evidence is old).
Plan has the SC rule that it was illegal to invade Iraq and advise the military to withdraw troops.
Question of having the court order the military to do something.
Aff has lots of good ev on war was illegal, preventive war bad.
No evidence on pullout fixes the issue.
Evidence old - 2003 - about how we should not invade (in the future)
Offcase positions:
- Authors in the ILaw advantage suggest the UN takeover governance of Iraq or send peacekeepers. (International CP?)
- Supreme Court politics disadvantage
- Court stripping?
South Korea Prostitution - Vivian and Elina
Gynecological exams?
Serrano-Strange
- Commodification - trafficking causes commod
- Ethical framework of decision making
- Intersectionality
- Advantage says that because Korean women are part of several minority groups, they are uniquely targeted (minority, women, poor)
- Impact is war - maybe
- Look at women in a way allows committing violence against them (continued violence against women)
Neg Options:
Redeployment
Not only the troops are the problem - when the troops leave, prostitution ring will stay and be filled with another group
Advantage counterplans
Japan Gender - Vivian and Elina
Considering whether the US goals are imperialistic - question of democracy?
Util debate
Sensitivity training?
No extraterritoriality?
PMCs
Redeployment
Turkey - Josh
Kernoff-Lamballe
Israel-Syria advantage -
- Removal of TNWs improves Israel-Syria relations
- water is the most probable scenario for war (2003)
- ME war spreads to a full regional war
- That war goes nuclear
Re-read the Kibaroglu article
Couple of cites to cut on that advantage - evidence is old
Iranian Prolif -
- Iran will prolif
- Getting out prevents this
US-Iran Relations Terror Addon
US-Turkey relations DA? Take out Iran advantage?
End the Iran sanctions CP?
PMCs from Iraq - Ben
Serrano-Strange
Advantage - Privatized War
- Almost all intelligence is from PMCs
- They can pick and choose what to give us
- Create own security threats
- Create own wars for own benefit
- PMCs are furthering neolib cap objective (they like $$)
Plan - terminate all contracts with intel-gathering PMCs
Question of topicality?
Regulate the PMCs
ABLs
Iraq Stability
Politics DA?
US fill in - incentive to use bad intel to J the war
Afghanistan Counter-Narcotics - Niki and Krishan
Mulholand-Olsen
- Plan text is to stop counternarcotics operations
- CN policies fail - Vanda Felbab-Brown
- Nolan will send cites to Niki and Krishan
- Some of the cards in the 1AC assume eradication?
Questions -
- How big is counternarcotics? T - substantial
Offcase Options -
- Ban interdiction and eradication but leave the peeps there
- New 09 drug policy - most evidence is old
- Eradication bad
Pakistan already growing loads of poppy
Russia DA?
Kuwait - Ethan
Serrano-Strange
US-Kuwait relations - new version has different advantages
Advantages:
Terrorism
Patriot Missiles in Kuwait
Start with reading their aff authors
Democracy is good in the Middle East - inhibiting Kuwaiti democracy
Oil hegemony - US oil heg is key
Kuwait key to logistics - spy on Iraq - intel
Withdraw after the Iraq war is over?
Aegis - Andrew
Serrano-Strange
- Normalization Article 9
- Only thing stopping Japan from attacking is Article 9
- Space Mil
- JET
- Japan Spending - Science (Stem Cell Research)
South Korean Withdrawal - Michael
Bandow quals - scandal
Advantages:
- NK - conflict inev, if the US is there it escalates
SQ sustainable - US solves conflict
KJI doesn't want a conflict with the US as long as we're there
If NK invades, we will nuke them?
China good - US withdrawal makes China solve NK
China heg bad?
Alt causes to relations
Politics
Conditions CP - Six Party Talks
July 28
Drones - Hannah
the two versions are similar
relations adv: drones are unpopular and questionably legal under CIL
we are increasing them right now and its unpopular in Afghanistan- this spills over
extinction scenario- weak links to these (indo pak and terror)
robo war scenario- naturalizes us to murder
KL doesn't specifiy the type of drone they remove?
RT version- not substantial
possible mechanism CP?
T- substantial? military presence?
can the courts influence military decision making/actions?
Nolan-Tyler
against COIN bad/terrorism good affs
pulling out the counter insurgency= taliban takeover?
taliban in the context of russian presence
perception disads have strong links here
adv counterplans
strong K links for affs that pull troops out to continue violent actions
military/state dept relations?
Nathan-Meghna
all versions remove troops from okinawa
East Asian Stability- US Japan alliance k/t stab in the region, = nuclear war
Economic Policy- key to japans econ
Democracy- everything based off of US Japan Alliance
Environment
China- china is scared of alliance, they will develop aggressive weapons
we can impact turn these advantages in some instances using cards from generic files
okinawa- imperialism?
book- "okinawa and the US military- identity making in the age of globalization", chapters about gender
Riyaz-Daniel
lots of case arguments- reasons why withdrawal is bad
nuclear arming of iran
iraq war-iraq becomes a power vacuum
counterplans- keep a small contingent
Negative Discussion
South Korea Military Exercises - Miranda
Considering Advantage Counterplans- Taiwan weapons
- Lots of ideas from the aff file
Kaesong Industrial Complex
- Six party talks key to get SK and NK talking and negotiating
- Industrial complex key to SK economy
- Econ collapse bad
-- Internal link is through six party talks? Since the ind complex is the place where they cooperate, SK companies would be in NK in the city of Kaesong - money and infrastructure from SK while workers are NK. Joint industrial venture to help both countries. Critical part of the talks.
Need better link internal link to the economy?
Advantages:
Kaesong, China Relations, Six Party Talks (nuclearization)
Iraq Colonialism Aff - Laura
Ramakrishnan-Turner
- Colonialism advantage - bases are cause there's a civil war, but really we're there because we want to be violent and cause chaos and mass death- D-rule to reject this. The evidence is kind of bad. Many analytics.
- Threat discourse causes war with Islam.
- Worldwide civil war
- Iraq is key
Best piece of evidence says that our bases represent colonialism - best way to engage is yes, we did cause these things, but withdrawing doesn't solve those things.
One of the counterplans is to pull out of Okinawa - internal NB of patriarchy, solves better for case. (Perm solves this).
External net benefit of PMCs (neolib impact).
Iraqi politics DA.
Engage on framework.
Redeployment DA
Heg advantage backwards
Softpower advantage backwards
NATO advantage backwards
"Article 140" - conditions CP for Iraq - claims to the Northern provinces?
- Perm remove combat forces no matter what - condition remaining on passing 140.
- Perm withdraw and then request that they do it.
Stop the Surge - Zulian!
Harkins-Olney
- Pakistan advantage - says that Pakistan is cooperating with the US now in Afghanistan- Surge kills Pakistani capability to support the US
- Pakistan key to defeat the Al Qaeda
- Nuclear war
- South Asian nuclear war
No ev that surge exacerbates Pakistan instability
Only way to achieve long-term goals in Pakistan
- Jirga advantage - traditional tribal council made to resolve issues inter-tribally
- Advantage says that Karzai did a Jirga to reconcile with the Taliban
- That's fragile - surge blocks the Taliban
- Jirga key to reconciliation and security
- Spills over to big war
Jirga - lots of disadvantages to it
"one-sided elitist corrupt and ineffective"
headed by tribal leaders - traditional means
bribery
Surge is working
India Counterplan???
Tonight - counterplans and DAs
Topicality - reduce means to decrease
- any evidence of future increase is grounds for a plan
- defend a withdrawal not that increasing is bad
- more literature on things there now
- read an aff that got rid of US reserves
Iraq Courts Aff - Michelle
Harkins-Olney
Advantages:
International Law
- If the US followed ILaw we would in the future and others would do so as well.
- Evidence is about how the US should impose its J system on others in the world
Preventative War
- Iraq sets a precedent for invading Syria or NK (but we didn't do that - evidence is old).
Plan has the SC rule that it was illegal to invade Iraq and advise the military to withdraw troops.
Question of having the court order the military to do something.
Aff has lots of good ev on war was illegal, preventive war bad.
No evidence on pullout fixes the issue.
Evidence old - 2003 - about how we should not invade (in the future)
Offcase positions:
- Authors in the ILaw advantage suggest the UN takeover governance of Iraq or send peacekeepers. (International CP?)
- Supreme Court politics disadvantage
- Court stripping?
South Korea Prostitution - Vivian and Elina
Gynecological exams?Serrano-Strange
- Commodification - trafficking causes commod- Ethical framework of decision making
- Intersectionality
- Advantage says that because Korean women are part of several minority groups, they are uniquely targeted (minority, women, poor)
- Impact is war - maybe
- Look at women in a way allows committing violence against them (continued violence against women)
Neg Options:
Redeployment
Not only the troops are the problem - when the troops leave, prostitution ring will stay and be filled with another group
Advantage counterplans
Japan Gender - Vivian and Elina
Considering whether the US goals are imperialistic - question of democracy?Util debate
Sensitivity training?
No extraterritoriality?
PMCs
Redeployment
Turkey - Josh
Kernoff-Lamballe
Israel-Syria advantage -- Removal of TNWs improves Israel-Syria relations
- water is the most probable scenario for war (2003)
- ME war spreads to a full regional war
- That war goes nuclear
Re-read the Kibaroglu article
Couple of cites to cut on that advantage - evidence is old
Iranian Prolif -
- Iran will prolif
- Getting out prevents this
US-Iran Relations
Terror Addon
US-Turkey relations DA? Take out Iran advantage?
End the Iran sanctions CP?
PMCs from Iraq - Ben
Serrano-Strange
Advantage - Privatized War- Almost all intelligence is from PMCs
- They can pick and choose what to give us
- Create own security threats
- Create own wars for own benefit
- PMCs are furthering neolib cap objective (they like $$)
Plan - terminate all contracts with intel-gathering PMCs
Question of topicality?
Regulate the PMCs
ABLs
Iraq Stability
Politics DA?
US fill in - incentive to use bad intel to J the war
Afghanistan Counter-Narcotics - Niki and Krishan
Mulholand-Olsen
- Plan text is to stop counternarcotics operations- CN policies fail - Vanda Felbab-Brown
- Nolan will send cites to Niki and Krishan
- Some of the cards in the 1AC assume eradication?
Questions -
- How big is counternarcotics? T - substantial
Offcase Options -
- Ban interdiction and eradication but leave the peeps there
- New 09 drug policy - most evidence is old
- Eradication bad
Pakistan already growing loads of poppy
Russia DA?
Kuwait - Ethan
Serrano-Strange
US-Kuwait relations - new version has different advantagesAdvantages:
Terrorism
Patriot Missiles in Kuwait
Start with reading their aff authors
Democracy is good in the Middle East - inhibiting Kuwaiti democracy
Oil hegemony - US oil heg is key
Kuwait key to logistics - spy on Iraq - intel
Withdraw after the Iraq war is over?
Aegis - Andrew
Serrano-Strange
- Normalization Article 9- Only thing stopping Japan from attacking is Article 9
- Space Mil
- JET
- Japan Spending - Science (Stem Cell Research)
South Korean Withdrawal - Michael
Bandow quals - scandalAdvantages:
- NK - conflict inev, if the US is there it escalates
SQ sustainable - US solves conflict
KJI doesn't want a conflict with the US as long as we're there
If NK invades, we will nuke them?
China good - US withdrawal makes China solve NK
China heg bad?
Alt causes to relations
Politics
Conditions CP - Six Party Talks
July 28
Drones - Hannah
the two versions are similarrelations adv: drones are unpopular and questionably legal under CIL
we are increasing them right now and its unpopular in Afghanistan- this spills over
extinction scenario- weak links to these (indo pak and terror)
robo war scenario- naturalizes us to murder
KL doesn't specifiy the type of drone they remove?
RT version- not substantial
possible mechanism CP?
T- substantial? military presence?
can the courts influence military decision making/actions?
Nolan-Tyler
against COIN bad/terrorism good affspulling out the counter insurgency= taliban takeover?
taliban in the context of russian presence
perception disads have strong links here
adv counterplans
strong K links for affs that pull troops out to continue violent actions
military/state dept relations?
Nathan-Meghna
all versions remove troops from okinawaEast Asian Stability- US Japan alliance k/t stab in the region, = nuclear war
Economic Policy- key to japans econ
Democracy- everything based off of US Japan Alliance
Environment
China- china is scared of alliance, they will develop aggressive weapons
we can impact turn these advantages in some instances using cards from generic files
okinawa- imperialism?
book- "okinawa and the US military- identity making in the age of globalization", chapters about gender
Riyaz-Daniel
lots of case arguments- reasons why withdrawal is badnuclear arming of iran
iraq war-iraq becomes a power vacuum
counterplans- keep a small contingent